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Dalai Lama, Stop Suppressing Dorje Shugden!!

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Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden Part 1

Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden Part 2

Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden Part 3

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April 18, 2008 - Posted by | Videos | , , , , , , , , , ,

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  1. Heil Hitler
    How much did the CCP pay you for this verbal diarrhoea?

    Comment by Cardano | April 19, 2008 | Reply

  2. To Cardano: I will not delete your offensive comment.

    Comment by factandtruth | April 20, 2008 | Reply

  3. Free Dorje Shugden!!! Visit this blog to learn more about the Dorje Shugden Controversy:
    http://www.wisdombuddhadorjeshugden.blogspot.com/

    Comment by Dorje Shugden | June 3, 2008 | Reply

  4. The real problem with this site is that it claims to be looking for the truth, but it started from the point of the author having made up his or her mind and then has been designed to that conclusion. We do respect that they have left the comments open, but on balance a great deal is missing.

    For example, the words of the Dalai Lama to The Tibetan People

    Comment by TibetanPHOTOproject | June 18, 2008 | Reply

  5. Reports came through in May that:

    * Agents of the Dalai Lama are trying to destroy Palgyeling Monastery in Nepal.
    * Mobs supportive of the Dalai Lama’s ban burnt down the house and hotel of Tenzing Choegyal (Zongkar Choede) in New Delhi last Thursday.
    * A doctor who was helping Dorje Shugden practitioners was attacked yesterday at a clinic in a Tibetan settlement (Ooti) that was giving out medicines for tuberculosis.
    * The Dalai Lama’s sister Pema is in Paris starting the forced signature campaign of Tibetans in France.
    * The forced signature campaign is being arranged for Madison, US, in July 2008.

    Meanwhile, the Dalai Lama has been in England talking about tolerance, religious harmony and the need for dialog with one’s enemies. He has still refused every single request to discuss the unlawful ban on the worship of Dorje Shugden.

    Segregation

    Today the entire Tibetan population is being forced to hold an Identity Card, the YELLOW CARD, proving that they took the oath swearing (1) not to worship Dorje Shugden, and (2) not to have any material or spiritual relationship with Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    This segregates and denies the human rights of both monastics and lay families.

    Segregation in the monasteries

    Buddhist monks and nuns who do not swear and are not given the Yellow Card are:

    * Not allowed to eat with others
    * Deprived of food. They are not allowed in any of the monastery’s kitchens. Even if they receive some external help for their survival, they cannot buy food from the monastery’s shop or anywhere in the nearby Tibetan settlements
    * Not allowed to set foot in their main temple,
    * Not allowed to attend the daily monastic gatherings of prayers, rituals and debates
    * Having to be protected by Indian police to attend the sacred yearly Monlam Chenmo Festival, created by their religious founder Je Tsongkapa.
    * Receiving violent threats in the neighbouring Tibetan settlements, cowardly posted during the night

    It is forbidden to talk to them. It is forbidden to walk close to them. If you see one of them, you have to deviate your steps to not cross his or her path.

    Segregation in the lay community

    Lay Tibetans have been made to swear the double oath of not worshipping the Protector Dorje Shugden themselves as well as forsaking all contact with the monastic practitioners.

    Those who do not swear and are not given the Yellow Card:

    * Are not allowed to travel in the same taxicab or rickshaw with other Tibetans.
    * Cannot purchase even the most essential groceries (their children cannot even buy candy)
    * Eat in any restaurant
    * Lose their jobs
    * Have their children expelled from school

    Definition of Segregation from Cornell: 3 -Segregation -1. enforced separation of groups: the practice of keeping ethnic, racial, religious, or gender groups separate, especially by enforcing the use of separate schools, transportation, housing, and other facilities, and usually discriminating against a minority group.
    4 -A civil right is an enforceable right or privilege, which if interfered with by another gives rise to an action for injury. Examples of civil rights are freedom of speech, press, and assembly [.] and the right to equality in public places.
    Discrimination occurs when the civil rights of an individual are denied or interfered with because of their membership in a particular group or class. (Cornell University Law School).]

    Does the Dalai Lama have the right to do this?

    Although the world has been served an image of the Dalai Lama as the religious leader — a Pope of sorts — of all Buddhists, he is not. He does not have any religious authority to do what he is doing. In a general way this is because Buddhism accepts all internal religious beliefs and doesn’t harbor the notion of persecuting heresy, and in particular because there is no level of authority in the Buddhist religion to order or implement a religious persecution.

    Who is responsible for the ban, Yellow Card and resulting penalties for those who disobey?

    Everything going on now is the direct responsibility of the Dalai Lama. He has been campaigning personally to push the abbots and monks to do the referendum and make others take the double oath.

    He is responsible for the persecution because he chose the necessary words to push Tibetans to become the tormentors of their fellow exiles by repeating four calumnies over and over again:

    1-The worshipping of Dorje Shugden endangers his life

    2-It harms the cause of Tibet.
    3-Practitioners assassinated three monks in Dharamsala in the 1990s
    4-Practitioners are working for the Chinese to harm the cause of Tibet

    To measure how deep the crisis goes, consider the following statement by Ngawang Tenpa, Officer of the Cholsum organization, the largest regional group in Tibetan politics:

    “It is possible to think of a time when we will make friends with the Chinese, but with these (Dorje Shugden) people – never.”

    Comment by Dharmapal | June 19, 2008 | Reply

    • I don’t know who you wrote this for but you helped a breothr out.

      Comment by Nelia | May 18, 2017 | Reply

  6. To find out all about this issue, including the Dalai Lama in his own words, his reasons etc, please look at the excellent website: http://www.WisdomBuddhaDorjeShugden.org and make up your own minds.

    Comment by Dharmapal | June 19, 2008 | Reply

  7. I have read the yet to be published pledge for Tibetans attending the Madison function WI. There is no reference or or implied reference to Shugden practice. This speculation of a forced signature campaign is baseless.

    Comment by David Canada | July 11, 2008 | Reply

  8. and now that the Madison function’s been and gone, would you like to retract that statement, David, having read the actual pledge?

    it’s real, and it’s wrong.

    Comment by dougal | September 23, 2008 | Reply

  9. dougal: I read the document in advance as mentioned, and the only retraction necessary is from your translator as there is not one word even hinting at your ‘god’ or guru. It might be useful for you to not rely on those who deceive the ignorant.

    Comment by David Canada | November 30, 2008 | Reply

  10. It is now time for the DL to be brought to justice – those who continue to attack and abuse others believing that they are just have missed the point of holy dharma. The Dalai Lama may have won the Nobel Peace prize but then so did Henry Kissinger. It means nothing. May truth prevail and may Dorje Shugden practitioners have the freedom to practice as they wish. Even if you think the practice is bad or wrong, if you believe in freedom and human rights then there is no justification for banning or supressing any religious practice, especially one that harms no one, whatever the propaganda suggests. Being a Shugden practitioners, according to the Dalai Lama I am in the pay of the Chinese, pray for him to die, and am a vicious murderous lunatic. Please come and check for yourself who I really am. I never ever pray for him to die, only to come to his senses and to be brought to justice for the crimes he has committed. He is a simple monk who has lost his way, a human who thinks he is a God and has the right to cause tremendous suffering. The time for Dalai Lama’s is over, Tibet can no longer be an authoritarian state with one leader, the democracy of the TGIE is a complete sham, as most who think for themselves have realised. The DL has given Tibet to China and used Dorje Shugden to deflect attention from himself. Now he uses DS as a scapegoat for everything. Unfortunately, all of this will come back to him. As a human being, he is deeply flawed as we all are, and his time is well and truly over. No more lies, no more supression, no more abuse of power. I prayer that peace may return to the Tibetan people and the wonderful, pure lineages of Tibetan Buddhism, which can co-exist harmoniously without his interventions. And to the Jackal, Tenzin Peljor, your poison will only harm you and will never benefit you nor anyone else. Please give it up, and save us all from the divisions you are so desperately attempting to create. Please follow the words of the Buddha, not the DL and learn to love and appreciate Dorje Shugden practitioners around the world. See the truth, clamber out of the fog of nonsense you are immersed in

    Comment by Vajra Brother | January 5, 2009 | Reply

    • AÍ EM PREFEITO, TÁ IMPORTANTE HEIN!!! QUE DESGOSTO TER UMA PESSOA COMO VC E ALGUNS DE SEU GRUPO PREJUDICANDO E ATRASANDO O PROGRESSO DE NOSSA CIDADE, PENA QUE NÃO TEMOS EM QUEM VOTAR, POIS SÃO SEMPRE OS MESMOS GRUPOS POLÍTICOS. PARABÉNS POR TODOS OS COMENTÁRIOS SOBRE ESSA NOTÍCIA, MENOS UM QUE DEVE SER DO REFERIDO GRUPO, MAS NO RESTANTE FORAM OPORTUNOS E INENEIGLETTS, PARABÉNS

      Comment by Lois | May 18, 2017 | Reply

  11. My friend on Facebook shared this link and I’m not dissapointed that I came here.

    Comment by How to Get Six Pack Fast | April 15, 2009 | Reply

  12. NKT can worship Shungden all they want, H.H just says it is more harmful to worship a demon which is what NKT is doing. I left NKT after seeing others in this practice and chose so on the thought that it wasnt dharmic and conducive to my growth. however I dont care if they practice because it doesnt effect me either way. live and let live. and as a former NKT, I learned of the controversy 4 years after I left, I had no root guru so I didnt break my vows. I watch and observed and I didnt agree with the anger before and after I left. I’m more at peace and have learned more since I’ve left so I’m content in my past decision-making.

    and to be fair before and after, we were told H.H doesnt approve of Shungden practice however never saw physical proof.

    many pics I’ve seen associated with oppression claims are in fact from verifiable sources, but have been changed to make others believe the false belief that tibetian buddhism is all about control. now lords did do bad things however it was not under the authority of H.H.

    in all honesty…. according to Two truths doctrine…. this fighting about right and wrong is moot and will not help others with dharma practice.

    so I say live and let live on both sides… metta to all of you!

    Comment by lamrim eater | September 26, 2013 | Reply


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